Curse

SingYai · Feb 18, 2011, 12:45 PM // 12:45

With the recent update, the dervish skills does not work for warriors like AoHM, Eremite's Attack, and Mystic Sweep. Does this mean goodbye to warrior scythes?

gasp10 · Feb 18, 2011, 01:01 PM // 13:01

i think that can be find new build with adrenaline skill that have added, and some low cost flash enchant.
testing is the only answer.

dasmitchies · Feb 18, 2011, 02:05 PM // 14:05

No, slightly weakened but still viable with new skills

Gill Halendt · Feb 18, 2011, 02:07 PM // 14:07

VoS looks abusable enough even by secondaries.

RedDog91 · Feb 18, 2011, 02:09 PM // 14:09

The adrenaline scythe attacks are very viable on a warrior
low cost flash enchant and you're good to go. However, I am disappointed that my W/D Flourish build no longer works.

North Dragon Slayer · Feb 18, 2011, 02:10 PM // 14:10

I beleive you will find a new combo, but if cracked armor stacks with armor penetration.... WoW....

Gill Halendt · Feb 18, 2011, 03:05 PM // 15:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by North Dragon Slayer

I beleive you will find a new combo, but if cracked armor stacks with armor penetration.... WoW....

Of course it does.

Staggering Force might come in handy, expecially thanks to its very short recharge.

Swingline · Feb 18, 2011, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Down but not out. I replaced AoHM with EBSoH and put in IatS and hit over 100 dps.

SingYai · Feb 18, 2011, 09:44 PM // 21:44

I wonder if battle rage would be good with all the new adrenaline skill?

Hells Fury · Feb 18, 2011, 10:04 PM // 22:04

Doesn't have to be goodbye.Hitting 3 targets at the time is too good (with good positioning). AoHM, mystic and eremite attacks will be missed. Asuran scan not so much, i never used it.

Until i figure out something better here's the stuff i'm using at the moment:
Drunken Master
Power Attack
Protectors Strike
Victorious Sweep
I am Strongest
SY
Counterattacks
WE

Still good yellow numbers, but not as high as before.

Omar_Sharif · Feb 18, 2011, 10:06 PM // 22:06

shame that aura slicer is mysticism..... radiant scythe look kinda legit.

Lita · Feb 18, 2011, 11:14 PM // 23:14

What about:

Power Attack
Prot strike
Aura Slicer (or crippling victory or something better?)
Reap Impurities
WE
IAS
Optional
Optional

FoxBat · Feb 19, 2011, 01:34 AM // 01:34

As long as WE is the elite, you still have plenty of energy which can be spent on flash enchants. So the builds should not look that different from a damage-oriented derv avatar build like grenth's. You trade off avatar benefits for armor penetration on attack skills. Don't ask me how best to abuse that though, or if the tradeoff is even worth it.

Moonstalker · Feb 19, 2011, 02:24 AM // 02:24

I put Onslaught on my warrior, and had a little fun with it.
But warriors aren't fun, so I stopped playing him again after a bit :P

FoxBat · Feb 19, 2011, 06:17 AM // 06:17

Edit: like this the best

WE
Power Attack
Prot Strike
Wearying Strike
Fleeting Stability
Aura of Thorns/Zealous Renewal/Conviction
SY
Frenzy

Zealous Renewal is surprisingly effective on a non-primary, if you can keep it up for a few seconds and get an extra zealous mod. But energy is basically OK so aura of thorns works fine too. Fleeting just for a speed buff, and both because 100 damage skill > others.

The thing that hurts hardest really isn't changing the attack skills... it's AoHM. Without that skill, which stacked with basically everything, scythe damage is merely reasonable instead of absurd. Note that there are very few scythe pvp splits but a very important pvp split on death blossom, AoHM is the thing that helped scythes match or overcome that in PvE land, and it's gone now.

Owik Gall · Feb 19, 2011, 06:56 AM // 06:56

I had a devastating W/D build that could tear down enemies fast, but something about the bug update that slowed it down. Here's how I made it:

Staggering Force
Pious Assault
Body Blow
Power Strike
Counterattack
Victorious Sweet
Warrior of Endurance
Burst of Aggression

I'm leaning towards the Burst as the culprit, but even then it still felt that the attacks weren't as devastating from each hit as before. I think they mentioned some fix on the scythe stats today that wasn't there yesterday? I don't know... Will keep trying.

Agar · Feb 19, 2011, 11:41 AM // 11:41

I havent figured it out yet but iam leaning towards a new W/D with Str,Scythe Master and Wind or Earth Prayers using mostly adrenaline attacks.

Edit: Something like that, the last skill is optional.

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Swingline · Feb 19, 2011, 10:11 PM // 22:11

I have been testing out a lot of the new derv skills and TBH this is the best build to pump out sheer dps imho.

1. WE
2. EBSoH(Not as high damage as AoHM but great replacement. Can not be shattered since it is a ward. Syncs great if running other melee)
3. IatS(Makes up for AoHM. Only downside is it runs out fast and rc is long)
4. Prot Strike(Spammable damage and even more brutal if target moves)
5. Power Atk(fast rcing damage)
6. Counterattack(damage & energy)
7. Flail(IAS)
8. Enraging Charge(IMS, cancels flail and charge it immediately)

If you are working on alcohol or just have some you can use.

7. Wild Blow(always a critical hit and removes stances)
8. Drunken Master(really brutal at r10 lol)

Durability was not really an issue since I run full sentinals and +5 armor on my scythe.

EDIT: Forgot to put my atts. I dont believe it is a good idea to run Major or Superior Runes while lacking a shield

14 Strength
12 Scythe Mastery

Age · Feb 19, 2011, 11:50 PM // 23:50

They can still use all 3 of their weapons line unlike no others can.

Lita · Feb 20, 2011, 07:59 AM // 07:59

I have been using:

Power Attack
Prot strike
BodyBlow (I am using 2 dwayna derv's that have cracked armor and a smite monk so it does deep wound as well - http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/d...t10470461.html)
WE
IAS
Grenth's Aura
EBSoH

seems to be alot of damage.